Suggestion to help more casual users of Cantabile

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A guide and opinions on use of racks within songs…

Efficient Use Of Racks Within Songs?

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I Don’t Understand “States”.

I don't understand states?

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Global Aux for FX Send/Return?

Hello all, Is there a way to create global Aux for FX return? i.e. I want to setup a reverb and/or delay that all plugins can then send to to save resources? Thanks, Kenny.

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Can't Create Initial Rack File. Best work flow?

Just getting started with V3.0. So far I have… Created a New Song Added instruments ports and routing for this song. All is good so far. Everything is working. But I can’t create a rack from this Song as the “Save Rack As” is ghosted. and this new song has no associated Rack, that shows up in the upper left corner per screen shots 2-4 of this Rack Guides What is the best method of work flow, for not just building out a song but an entire set list, that loads all of the VST’s for a given set…

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Absolute beginner

Hi all. I’m a very very amateur musician (use the word musician very loosely) that likes playing with the tech more than playing the music. Please help…I am struggling. In the past have used Brainspawn and so I am probably troubled by the terminology more than anything else. The scenario is: 1 song Intro verse bridge chorus bridge2 verse chorus outro…8 “scenes” 3 vst’s are used…piano sound…string sound and orchestra sound “intro” uses just the piano “verse” is a combination of piano and s…

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Loading plug-ins

When I just loaded Cantabile 3, as part of the initial setup, I listed 3 separate VST directories and the software found 80 of them but when I went to select them I had only 6. Is this program able to find all the 32bit and 64 bit VST’s but can only use 64 bit VST’s ?

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How to tie a plugin key change to a particular song

I am trying to build a set of ten songs, each being in a different key. I want to somehow connect the midi transpose to each song independantly. How do I do that?

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Any Tips on basic workflow? Creating fxp files? (C3)

Hi everybody, first off: I’m so happy that C3 has been released! Having had a look around the new interface I came across some issues, some of which I would love to get solved by you guys In C2 I got used to load a plugin into an exisiting “basic setup” (all now called routes were established already and remained so after removing a single plugin). How would I similarly get this behaviour in C3? My problem is that I’ve got to renew all MIDI and audio routes after…

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Create One Rack or Many Specific Racks - Best Practice

If I want to load up all of my synths and presents and the beginning of a set, is it best to have one large rack with all of my synths loaded. And then have the song reference an appropriate rack state. Or for organizational purposes is it good to have many racks and rack states, and then I HOPE/ ASSUME, that a set list will see all of the Racks that the set list references and will automatically load all of the needed racks??? FYI - My computer has 16GB of ram, and a 512GB SSD.

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Permanently silencing specific keys

I want to permanently silence the lowest 3 keys on my 88-key controller and reserve those keys to trigger state changes. I’ve figured out how to use bindings in the Global Rack to assigned state changes to each key. How do I also globally turn off the volume for each key as well?

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Keyboard split questions for V3

I am a bit confused on how to make Cantabile work for me. Here is a general idea of what I typically do. 4-5 song set list Each songs has 2-4 different sounds I use 2 midi keyboards (88 key semi weighted and 61 key synth action) - one of which has knobs, faders and pads for playing sounds Once the song is set up I will need it to hold all plugins and settings. I currently have 100 songs with specific synth lead parts, ambient pads and specialized sounds. These 100 songs make a set list to perf…

[brad]

Woah. That’s awesome Terry - thanks so much for helping out with this. Please send me anything you put together and I’ll help spread it around…

[terrybritton]

States has its own video here:

I’ve created a playlist on my channel to contain all the tutorials I can find or that I create myself.

The first ones are the ones Brad has made and are also available on his YouTube channel (though not yet in a playlist form there)

https://www.youtube.com/user/cantabilesoftware

And also on the official Cantabile 3 tutorials page.

I can make more on the topic of states, for sure! There are so many nuances!

Terry

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Since the list so far is not categorized or prioritized, and represents a first pass at a variety of Cantabile components and features, should we look to keeping the list as a “sticky” so as the user community finds other areas that could use more help, it would be easier to find this (now lengthy) post to add items.

Or any other way to keep an ongoing set of helpful comments for new or casual users of Cantabile.

From my perspective, the Into video seems to be adequate to get new users started using Cantabile, and I feel the real need is to develop “use cases”, like us IT people tend to term them, which look at couple of commonly used setup situations. For example, a guide that walks a user through the process of setting up a main keyboard with two splits, a couple of control bindings, and adding some VST’s, showing the various menus and settings options along the way.

Another example might be a setup of two keyboards and a control surface with bindings and several racks with explanations of the hows and whys, along with a more detailed intro into setting up Songs and Setlists.

Something like these two scenarios could bring a casual player up to enough of a level to more fully understand the comments and issues of more advanced users on this forum.

Just some random thoughts on this topic…

[terrybritton]

Yes, this might be handy to make it a sticky item.

I’ve been sick the last couple of weeks, but have made a mind-map to house my outlines for a few videos. I may share that when it has enough stuff in it!

Terry

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Terry… Quick cure for being sick. Something my father handed down to me and it most always works to make on feel better.

1. Make a strong cup of tea (I like the Orange Spice teabags).
2. Add about 2+ tablespoons of honey and stir until honey is dissolved.
3. Add a slice of lemon and stir to get the lemon juice flavor.
4. Now add the magic ingredient that makes it really work… a tablespoon (or so) of Rock&Rye liquor. May be a bit hard to find, but larger liquor stores should have it. It’s made from rock candy.

Sip it nice and hot just before bedtime. I found it almost always works to make you feel a lot better by morning!

Sometimes you need to add a little more Rock&Rye to get the best effect. You can probably substitute for the Rock&Rye if you can’t find any, but suggest not messing with a proven solution!

[terrybritton]

I’m ready to try that - even if I get better before finding the Rock and Rye!

Terry

[Neil_Durant]

Yeah, I think I’m going to try it and I’m not even ill!

Neil

[terrybritton]

Here is a good one reviewing Racks by Torsten:

Unsure whether to change to V3, need opinions please

You’re pretty close, but not quite there yet First: create racks from your plugins - these are the “Instruments” you use in your songs. Why create racks? Two reasons: First: racks get re-used across songs and (for pre-loaded set lists) are kept im memory only once, So, if you use the same rack (“Piano Rack”) in 15 songs in your set list, it gets loaded only once. If you put the plugins into your songs directly, all individual instances need to be pre-loaded for each song. Racks keep yo…

[PatAzzMusic]

Going to provide a quick reply that maybe Brad can use, and others can help maintain.

Perhaps a FAQ with input (e.g., Thorsten’s replies) on this that is posted on the Cantabile site, but maintained by Thorsten or other contributors. This could also be a Wiki, but that takes a bit more management than a single doc that someone can download, printout and reference.

I’d be happy to help, though I am far from an expert on Cantabile (today).

Pat