In live situations (and cantabile definitely is a live host) we often have the situation that FOH operator tends to do mixing in mono. The reason behind: whereas audience sitting at a sufficient distance to the PA is getting well balanced stereo panorama those listeners placed near one of the (mostly) 2 speaker sections has a chance of 50% to not hear anything of an instrument with extreme panning.
A proper way to get rid of this is to combine the standard level panning with additional delay for the channel that shall be decreased.
Result: for farfield we still have maximum panning available but signal is still audible on both speakers.
Of course this can be realised by implementing a delay into each channel. Disadvantages:
one delay per channel seems oversized
corellation between level pan and delay is not linear = not easy to adjust
So maybe the delay function & control interface could be implemented into cantabile. GUI doesn’t have to be changed - only a possibility to chose between standard and haas panning would be necessary.
I’m afraid I haven’t used any, so can’t recommend one. But a quick web search brings up a few, such as this one. But having it integrated into Cantabile’s pan pots would be considerably slicker.
thanks for the link. I also did some search in google but only found old links, not working any more, applications only available for x86 hosts or Mac. I’ll definitely will have a closer look on this.
The other aspect is simplicity: for me a panpot is a bread and butter tool I really like to have available directly (but of course this is personal taste and workflow).
I used another live host in parallel to cantabile since years without panpots and solved this by loading a panpot plugin on each channel. I always found it extremely cumbersome.
So I always try to keep the ballance between “whistles & bells” (which I definitely like very much )and simplicity, means one pot could be enough…
I agree that it feels like it’s something that belongs in Cantabile. I guess this might be a good application for the “rack control panel” suggestion I made, if it were available as a plugin - hide the complexity of the plugin within a rack, and just expose the pan control. But even then, it wouldn’t be as slick as being properly integrated.
Just by coincidence today I noticed there’s an mda plugin that does haas delay as part of the Stereo Simulator plugin. I haven’t tried it myself, but if you’re looking for a plugin it might be worth checking out.
I actually downloaded this app a couple of weeks ago, just out of curiosity. Haven’t had time to use it much, but seems to work pretty well on the few things I tested.
)and simplicity, means one pot could be enough…