Show me your Cantabile Rig!


#221

Dmxis also!
I like the hardware and software to send.
I now have 1 program per song but would like to try more later with the timeline perhaps or state change.


#222

bfI have got tested so many dmx interfaces with different software solutions…
but it was all to complicated.

…so finaly this is the best for me and works perfekt with cantabile

…i have built a ‘light’-Rack with my light scenes and so i can switch the scenes with states and no more dmx programming orgy.

my only problem is the time to work with my equipment… 24h a day is not enough to work eat and my hobby('s).

So at the moment it is all in test phase only testing states an not a real setlist to use :cry:


#223

I finally got around to taking a new shot of my studio. This time, I made sure Cantabile was running on my main studio PC.
The newest addition to the keyboard rig is the Roland System 8 in the middle of the shot. Roland have a winner with this one. It sounds wonderful.


#224

Wow, impressive. It must feel like being in keyboard heaven :angel:


#225

Thanks Herman :slight_smile:
IIt’s been a long time in the making. I first started putting this rig together 30 years ago. The first synth I owned was the MK1 DX7 which I still have and use. The first synth I ever played was a Roland Juno 6, (in 1984) and I also still have one of those in this rig and it too gets plenty of use.


#226

Keyboard porn man! :smiley:


#227

Always worrying when you recognise most of the synths without having ever owned them :wink:

Good that you have all the space. I have room for four boards in my man cave. So it is one in, one out for me!


#228

If I had kept everything I had owned through the years I’d have a heck of collection. But I went the opposite route, I got rid of stuff when I had no room, had to move, er, had to pay for weddings… or food… etc :smiley: Didn’t we do a thread once running down what we’d have if we kept it all?


#229

@David Where the heck are you going to squeeze in the Cathedral Pipe Organ is all I ask. :wink:

Terry

(Love the detail of your Ambisonics setup, too!)


#230

I guess that’s one of the advantages of remaining single. Or is that the REASON I am still single???
There’s been more than one occasion I’ve survived on two minute noodles between pay days too!
The only reason I have this rig now is because I haven’t sold any of the keyboards I’ve purchased since starting in the 80s. This rig is pretty much a timeline of my musical journey.


#231

Ah, the pipe organ…
I must update that topic. In the end, I decided against that project. After doing further research, it turned out that it was going to require considerably more time than I had initially thought to get it up and running again in its new location. It would also have required most of the budget that I’ve allocated to the construction of the Moog style modular setup I’m working on.

I’m also working on a double length concept album at the moment which is my biggest undertaking to date. The install of the organ would’ve been a significant distraction away from the completion of this album.

Regarding the Ambisonics setup, I intend on taking some photos of the full setup soon. At the moment, I have the speakers mounted on a temporary frame made from a combination of Gibraltar drum hardware, random pieces of aluminium tubing and old pedestal fan stands!! It isn’t very photogenic!!


#232

Looks like RME TotalMix running on the lower right monitor…


#233

From last night’s show…

FAMC LiquidFoot+ mini holds the setlists, on-stomp sends program changes to Cantabile3 running on the Dell Inspiron 2in1. All boards run as LOCAL=OFF and go through the MOTU patchbay to the computer. Cantabile handles all the routing, key ranges, layers, controller mapping/scaling, and patch changes (when receiving a PC from the LF+). Halion Sonic 3 also used for some songs. RME Fireface UCX handles USB IO and audio mix. XLR a/b switch for Vocoder routing to Kronos. Custom pedalboard connects via multi-pin snake. Shure PSM-600 ear-bug system.



~ vonnor


#234

It is indeed. My main studio interface is an RME Fireface UFX with two Behringer ADA8200s for extra analog inputs from my keyboard rig and V Drums kit. The UFX ADAT outputs run to two Expert Sleepers ES3 interfaces and an ES5 gate expander so I can control my analog synths with CV/Gate signals from REAPER or Cantabile.


#235

That looks and sounds like a very efficient, well organized live setup Vonnor. Nice to see another RME user too.


#236

New holder for microfone and tablet… expensive but very cool flexible and stable
no more jumping Lyrics :slight_smile:

Triad Orbit
Advanced Stand System
(on my K&M 18950)


#237

Hi, all

I thought that it was about time to show my new Rig and its current work in progress status now that it is coming together :slight_smile:

With thanks to everybody who contributed for all of the suggestions when we were discussing it earlier in the thread around May this year. It’s taken longer than intended to get to this state due to a really hectic work year.

Keyboards

So from bottom to top you have

  • Roland FC300 MIDI foot controller (and extra pedals/switches) - this is fully programmable in what the controllers are doing and it means you can keep both hands on the keyboards whilst switching patches, changing Leslie speed, controlling lights/haze, triggering some sound samples, etc. I tend to use the left most pedal (the extra one) for Organ swell, then the 1st one on the FC300 itself for Fades or general part volume, and keep the rightmost one for Leslie speed or other modulations.
  • Yamaha Montage 7 (new toy that has replaced my aging EX5, it sounds great and fulfils my desire for a 76 note semi weighted master keyboard)
  • Korg Kronos X 61
  • GeChic touch monitor for the computer in the gig rack to the right, located in the perfect place to keep an eye on Cantable, make use of the touch screen, etc. Whilst I will carry a wireless mouse and keyboard with me, they are only for emergencies. I can startup and control everything from the touch monitor (a great recommendation from Neil earlier in the thread)

From the rear view, to secure the monitor and also my Mic (I’m fed up of trying to get a boom mic hanging over the keyboard, which usually makes them top heavy and unstable!) I have used Quick-Lok accessories that simply attach to the top tier tubes. I did a bit of metal work to cut the tubes to size to get the snuggest and closest fit to the back of the Kronos. On the floor to the left you might be able to see that I have actually loomed all of the cables between the keyboards, monitor and foot pedal to the rack into one loom, which makes setting up and tear down much easier, and avoids the usual tangled mass of spaghetti!

Keyboards Rear

Onto the rack itself

Rack Front

From bottom to top

  • Focusrite 2i4 USB sound module to the left and Intel NUC computer to the right for the Cantabile host
  • Shure Wireless transmitter for In Ear Monitoring (output 3 of the 2i4 wired direct internally)
  • Behinger 8 channel line mixer (six channels in use)
  • My beloved Nord G2 Engine (go faster stripe) - the modular synth in a 1U rack. It doesn’t look much, but it is very powerful. :slight_smile: I haven’t used this for a while, but added it in as it adds very little weight and is a great sound source.

The computer itself is an Intel NUC “Skull Candy” from Ambrose, quad core i7 (3.5GHz from memory) with 32GB memory and 512 GB SSD. So very fast and well suited to CPU hogs like DIVA and also sample streaming VSTis like Omnisphere.

Inside the rack itself are:

  • MIDISPORT 2x2 to give me extra MIDI Ports
  • DMXIS module for driving DMX lights (using DMXIS VST plugin driven from Media MIDI file)
  • Seven port USB hub and PSU

And around the back…

Rack Rear

All designed so you are not fumbling around inside the back of the rack for making connections. All connections are made via bulkhead couplers, other than the MIDI connectors, as I could not find any couplers for those, so they are panel connectors with MIDI leads cut and soldered to them.

Here are some pictures of the work in progress inside the rack. You can see how using couplers assists in ease of maintenance. The panels themselves are pre-punched and available from ESR Electronics (I can dig out details if people are interested) and the couplers come from either ESR Electronics or Studio Spares.

Inside Rack 1

Inside Rack 2

And everything labelled using a Brady hand held Cable Labeller (available from RS).

The big change for me whilst doing this is that previous to this work, I have used Cantabile mainly for backing tracks and DMX lights (in the Pure Floyd days I also ran NI B4II for organ duties), and in this context the gig laptop was at the end of the MIDI chain which was during Welsh Floyd

FC300 ==> Yamaha EX5 ==> Krog Kronos ==> Laptop

Earlier in Pure Floyd it was

FC300 ==> Yamaha EX5 ==> Novation Remote61 ==> Yamaha Motif Rack ES ==> Nord G2 ==> Yamaha FS1r ==> Yamaha A4000 ==> Laptop

So the laptop was always at the end of the chain. I avoided the use of MIDI routers/mergers on stage because the EX5 and Novation had the capability built in to do this (and the Novation would also hold notes whilst changing patches!) in that they could be set to “echo” MIDI in to MIDI out whilst also merging with their own data. But no keyboards seem to have this very handy feature any more.

In the new setup I have now moved to Cantabile being the hub in a “hub and spoke” model. The FC300, Montage and Kronos all connect to the computer. This will give me a lot more flexibil in that I can now use Cantabile to set up all sorts of routes between the units and VSTis.

So now the hardware is done, all soft synths are loaded, I now need to get programming Cantabile! :slight_smile: As mentioned in another thread, my first aim was to get my Welsh Floyd setlist back in action (was 98% Kronos with EX5 as a master keyboard and a few sounds where it still trumped the Kronos). I have achieved that, which has taught a lot about how to setup Cantabile as a hub, so I am ready to take take the next step and get some VSTis in the mix :slight_smile:


#238

Derek…am literally in the process of updating my own rig and saw this topic had moved back to the top and I wanted to add my two cents. Love it! Very clean setup and a lot of nice equipment. I too use the Quik-Lok for my mic for the very same reason. I didn’t alter the stand, but went to Home Depot and bought a piece of square tubing and through bolted it to the existing tube. I do hate that the existing tubes seem to stick out way too far for most keys that wind up on the 2nd tier. Kudos on a very sweet setup!


#239

Hi, Steve

Thanks. Yes, it’s been a bug bear of mine for a long time that the second tier tubes stick out too far, so it was time to get the hack saw out as otherwise it would have set the touch monitor too far back.

Be sure to share your rig once it is ready :slight_smile:


#240

Derek…I will be sure to give you a shout. Another day of woodworking and it should be done. It’s a replica C3 case I fashioned out of my existing rack. My old rack looked good arriving at the gig (it was all self contained in the form of a road case with all the classic hardware and Z-stand inside), but not so much on stage. One of those things you take a ton of time with and then a few weeks later, you realize you should have gone in another direction.

After seeing a lot of the latest builds, especially yours, it reaffirmed that I had to up my game, lol. I used to have a C3, with the slab sides, and have seen many rigs consisting of keys stashed inside, so I decided to convert the road case into a C3 replica (or as close as possible). It also solves a problem I always had because of the uniqueness of my rig and that was that the 2nd tier was much farther away than I was comfortable with. It was too much of a reach. This solves that problem as it is a custom build and it also eliminates a good deal of weight.

I have a system sort of like yours (certainly not equipment wise) but a two tier keyboard setup, with 4 pedals/footswitch, and a rack to the side with all my paraphernalia. I got rid of the 2nd tier of the Z stand and the support for it and now use it as support for my road case. It’s one of those rack cases with the sliding shelf. I’m the keyboardist as well as sound man, so mine includes power amp and digital mixer, besides my gear. It stashes inside my rig which has doors with removable hinges. Everything stays connected except for PA cables, mic cords and power. Setup will be about 10 min.

Steve