Feedback computer config

[cpaolo]

@cdv_gabriel

50% max 40% average

End of 140% playing Diva

Here is the updated list (that’s just a recap of the data collected from postings above). Sorry, can’t upload a pdf, so I’m uploading excel screenshot.

[cpaolo]

@Torsten

my current live laptop (Core i7 9750H @ 2.6 GHz)

Torsten,

Can we say brand and model of the laptop?

[Torsten]

Sure:

• current laptop (i7 9750H) is a Schenker Media 15
• my older laptop is an Acer Aspire V Nitro (VN7-591)
• The LiveCube is an ASRock Deskmini 310
• my studio PC (i7-7700K) is a MusicStore Audio PC 2017

Cheers,

Torsten

[cpaolo]

Thanks. Above screenshot updated.

[dbrendon]

PerfTest Results:

• Dell E5550 (Core i7-5600U @ 2.60GHz) 40% average, 60% max on C3
• Dell E5550 (Core i7-5600U @ 2.60GHz) 45% average, 80% max on C4

This is another suggestion that perhaps C4 is not as efficient as C3? @brad

[cpaolo]

Hi David,

I’ll update the performance test result. We made this test in 2020, so it’s Cantabile 3 only.

Cantabile 4 Known Issues

These are the currently known issues with Cantabile 4 Alpha Release: Possible performance issue with audio engine. (Still need to investigate as I’ve been focused on getting it stable first) I’ll edit this post to keep it up to date until v4 is released. I’ve also closed the post for comments to keep it concise. To discuss, please post here: Cantabile 4 Alpha Available. Previously listed known issues have been removed, see the release notes for fixed issues.

[Steffen]

Here are my results:

Thinkpad P15V, (Core i7-10875H @ 4,2GHz) 38% average, 40% max.

best
Steffen

[Kjeldran]

MSI gaming laptop, i710750H @ 4.5ghz, 31% avg, 50% peak

[brad]

FYI: I’ve been looking into these performance issues and have a pretty good idea what’s going on. It’s not related to CantabileCore.dll as suggested above and instead related to other changes.

I’m working through it but at this stage not sure how long it’ll be - I’ll either find that I’ve done something really stupid and it’ll be an easy fix, or it’ll be a more prolonged matter of performance profiling, testing and tuning.

[cpaolo]

Have a slightly updated table, even this thread is 2022.

[MLK]

Here the performance data of my new Mini IT13 from Geekom.

i9-13900H 5,4 GHz max 32GB RAM+2TB SSD

Cantabile Version 4.0 Build 4064 (x64)

An average time load of 19,4 % seems to be pretty fast!

[Torsten]

Hmmmm, this Geekom Mini looks tasty…

[johncarter]

Looks good, what’s DPC latency like?

[johncarter]

Did anyone have any input on the DPC latency question - I e. Using latencymon?

[MLK]

Here the result of the DPC latency checker of my Geekom i9-13900H 5,4 GHz max 32GB RAM+2TB SSD without audio optimization except that the power plan was set to maximum performance:

I think that looks very convincing as well.

[johncarter]

That looks good! Thanks for sharing. I’ll probably pick up an i9 too.

[MLK]

One issue makes a big difference regarding to the performance of the i9-13900H processor. This is thermal throttling.

It was reported on Youtube that the thermal throttling of the IT13 i9-13900H 5.4 GHz max was due to factory thermal paste (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVnKO16PNCQ) . Therfore, I replaced the factory themal paste with Conductonaut (liquid metal, Thermal Grizzly).

Previously, some performance cores reached the 100 °C limit relatively quickly and their performance was throttled. With Conductonaut, this behavior can no longer be observed and the core temperatures remain fairly stable around 50 °C in normal operation.

To figure out how effective the cooling through the liquid metal is I performed a stress test with Spectral Layer 10 Pro.Unmixing a song at best quality is very demanding for the processor.

As you can see, the temperature increases from 50 °C to 65 °C, which is still remote to the 100 °C limit of throttling.

Indeed, the exchange of thermal paste with liquid metal makes a big difference for the performance of the IT13 i9-13900H 5.4 GHz max.

[cpaolo]

@MLK

DPC latency checker

Try Latencymon and let us know. Let the program run for at least 30min in idle PC situation.

[MLK]

Here the result of LatencyMon in idlle PC situation:

Geekom IT13 i9-13900H 5,4 GHz max 32GB RAM + 2TB SSD without audio optimization exept that power plan was set to maximum performance.

This confrims the earlier findings with DPC Latency Checker und audio perfoarmance test.

[matejb]

Hmm, I’m currently evaluating different possibilities:

First I was looking at DeskMini B760 with i5-12600K / 32GB RAM / 2TB SSD = cca 900eur (without software, to build by myself)

but seeing perfromance data from @MLK and his Geekom IT13 with i9-13900H /32GB RAM / 2TB SSD as tested by @MLK = 750eur (without software, prebuilt) I’m not sure anymore…

the DeskMini would have the 65W TDP DESKTOP cpu (base freq 3,3GHz), the Geekom would have a 45W TDP MOBILE cpu with 2,6GHz base freq.

What are your opinions? I’d like to use it for heavier gigging - multiple Kontakt libraries at the same time, Zebra synth, IK B-3X, all layered and/or split in a song.

@MLK may I ask what is boot time from cold start to Windows and to full Cantabile setup?

Thanks and best regards,
Matej