Happy new year, everyone. Has anyone got Tonocracy working in Cantabile? It works fine as a standalone app, but when used as a plugin in Cantabile I get no input Iām on Windows 11, and the same song with Amplitube 5 works a treat.
Thereās no āAudio Settingsā option in the Tonocracy menu, which is expected as I believe that only shows when in standalone mode. The inputs are labelled āInput 1ā and āInput 2ā but I donāt think they relate to the audio ins in Cantabile as I have more than that.
Related: I also tried Neural Amp Modeler but the levels were way too low. I had to boost my input by 12db to hear anything respectable. Surely thatās not right, maybe the IRs I was using are rubbish. Does anyone have any suggestions for decent (free) amp and cab IRs? I mainly play clean (Fender Twin is my go-to) sometimes with a touch of crunch. Thanks.
Hi stillbreathing
It would be helpful to know what audio device you are using to input your guitar.
Your audio settings in Cantabile are determined by the device driver, in the tool selection. Until you setup the audio inputs, and outputs, you will not get any audio.
See if this helps, Configuring Audio Ports - Cantabile - Software for Performing Musicians
Your device should have a gain control input, which will give you enough boost to run your guitar sims.
I use many guitar amps, fx, and IRs, without a problem within Cantabile.
Apologies, I should have given more info. I use a Focusrite 2i4 as my interface, and it is set up correctly in Cantabile. I can see that there is definitely an input from my guitar, by looking at the input meter in Cantabile. The sound also works if I remove Tonocracy and wire the input direct to the output - even putting other plugins in the chain (Dr Drive, Clon, SPAN etc etc) works correctly. If I use Amplitube or NAM it works as expected. Itās just Tonocracy which doesnāt recognise any audio input,
Iāve been using Cantabile as a host for VST plugins (delays, reverbs, chorus etc) for several months, but now want to replace my aging Line6 Pod 2.0 amp modeller with something more modern. Thanks.
I tried Tonocracy awhile back, but it was a terrible resource hog, and discarded it. I think I have every amp sim ever made, and I still use some of the old ones. I am mostly using STL, and a few Soft tube/Nembrini, at this time. T-HU has always been a favorite, but I could spend a whole day on the amazing others I like. At this moment, I am fixated on just a few, just to keep my machine un-cluttered.
When you get to the point where change lurks around the corner, it is probably time to try something else. There are many candidates listed in this thread above, and some may provide demos.
The one thing most guitarists will always have, is a life long search for the perfect tone, and I havenāt found it in the 58 years Iāve been playing guitar. I call it necessary obsessionā¦others call it stupidity.
Usually I post videos on Corkyās Organ Forum, being a keyboardist myself. How I landed at this video, I cannot possibly tell youā¦but I thought if I was a guitarist I would enjoy the hell out of this.
Yeahā¦I figured that lesson out long ago, not having much money and allā¦lol. Seriously though, as long as the goal isnāt āexactā which you arenāt going to get anyway since you arenāt JH playing it, there are great tones a-plenty to be had for not much $. I was even rocking a digital only version of essentially the same chain a few months ago and when I played JH licks, it sounded like JH licks. Then there is the part everyone seems to ignoreā¦if JH were still alive Iād bet a paycheck he wouldnāt be using any of the same stuff anyway.
TONEX pedal update 1.90 adds a real time editor to Tonex. Free update adds this new editor capability and the pedal firmware updates to enable this. This should make editing my pedal patches a lot easier to do. I should be able to edit it all from the pedalās PC GUI interface
The FX have been finding their way into our work. The pedal has been a real difference maker in that the quality is there in a very small package.
Its a cool little pedal. Iām still firmly in the real amp > reactive load box > IR > post FX camp and the pedal replaced my laptop/plugins + I/O box + midi pedal since it can load 3rd party IRs and has just enough post FX to keep me happy, and two scenes for those FX are usually enough.
Iām working through using it as a stomp box only pedal for overdrive going into my bass amp/cab. Iām going to capture a friends EBS valve pedal this week. Will report back on how that goes.
EDIT - realized I didnāt post that I finally bought a Tonex One pedal. IKās site had it on sale and then they accepted $41 of Jam Points so it was about $110. I then picked up the Waveshare 4.3B and Chocolate BT pedal as seen in this video. The parameters on the Tonex can be modified in real time on the touchscreen which is handy for tweaking while in the studio. The creator, Gregg Smith, is another brilliant Aussie developer!
The Waveshare 4.3B is very well made - the touchscreen works well while editing parameters. The USB C port powers the Tonex. Iām feeding 9 volts from my pedal board power unit into the Waveshare 4.3B using a pedal style 9 volt pigtail I bought on Amazon.
Iām trying the minimal version of the controller connected via midi-Bluetooth. Parts on order, will report back when I get it going (or not, lol). Iāll use my old MidiBuddy with a midi-Bluetooth adapter to send program change to address the 20 preset slots. Only having two scenes was pretty cramped since I want to use the Tonex delay and usually need six or so different ones accessible by footswitch.
Loaded the firmware, used the web interface to set bluetooth to Custom Midi Port = MidiPortA (which is how the midi/bluetooth adapter identifies). Plug the midi/bluetooth into my MidiBuddy Program Change pedal, plug the ESP32-S3 into power and use USB-C to connect to the Tonex, and presto instant access to all 20 scene slots via my program change pedal! Pairs automatically upon power up, no messing with pressing buttons.
So 20 scenes of Tonex with instantaneous switching for about $40. Now I need to find a small plastic box to put it inā¦canāt use metal since BT and WIFI have on chip antennasā¦
The nice thing is you can run the web interface at the same time, so a phone can act as a real time editor for all of the usual FX parms.
Also, Iām using one of these to convert 9VDC to 5VDC for the ESP32-S3 board: Amazon.com . Generates hardly any heat at all. Using an analog voltage converter gets pretty toasty.
I did a lot of 3 legged voltage regulator replacements on gear through the years and they were almost always heat wear outs, even when heavily heat sinked. Itās amazing that the switcher supplies are so small and cool running. Thanks for showing.
Iām on Windows 11, and the same song with Amplitube 5 works a treat.
