And…if you happen thru Memphis, I will offer beer, and introduce you to some legendary musicians.
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Glad to be of assistance! The only payment that I need is to see you become at ease using C3 and be able offer assistance to the next budding novice. 
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I’m OK with the eyes in the morning, but I know whether or not it’s going to be a good day if I’m walking completely upright before I get to the bathroom. 
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I can relate to that… 
Crawling to the bathroom is a sign of a terrible day.
Doug:
Select CC64 (Hold Pedal)
Close the MIDI/Automation Control Window.
That will assign control of the Fast/Slow speeds to your Sustain Pedal.<
is the sustain pedal of the on / off type? One question: if I press CC4 (foot pedal MSB) what do I enable? I ask you this because behind my Pa 80 there is a jack with Foot pedal switch written on it.
Sergio,
On your PA80 panel, you want to use the “DAMPER” jack. Hopefully, you have a pedal for your keyboard (KORG PS1, PS or DS1H). Normally, the Sustain Pedal on a keyboard sends CC64 controller data (Value 0 = OFF, Value 127 = ON). You may have to change your pedal POLARITY of the FAST/SLOW speeds are reversed (Page 16-3 of your Owner’s Manual). You can Invert CC64 in the B-5 GUI, but that’s another lesson.
Doug
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Sergio,
Looking at your PA80 manual, I thought of one more option that you have:
Your Modulation/Pitch Bend Controller (left side of your keyboard) looks like LEFT/RIGHT is PITCH and UP/DOWN is MODULATION. If that is correct, UP/DOWN probably sends out CC01 (values 0 to 127). Therefore, if you hold the key UP, you’ll get a FAST rotary speed (CC02 @ 127). When it springs back, you’ll get a SLOW speed (CC01 @ 0).
You can go into the “MIDI” Tab of the GUI (right about the GUI keyboard) and look for the “Rotating Speaker Speed”. Click the “Toggle” button (it will move right). Then close the page (“X” under the “metronome” graphic.
Now, when you push up the MODULATION stem, the FAST Rotary effect will happen. Do it again and it will toggle back to the SLOW rotary speed.
Doug
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Doug (but any of you too),
I noticed that you looked at the Pa80 manual.
I have some pedals available. The pedal I use for Sustain I think is a button (when you hold it down it is sustain on, when you release it goes off). Another pedal is of the on / off type (it is the classic 2-position switch: on - off).
Finally I have a 5-button pedal board from the Korg EC5 Korg: could you take a look at the manual if it can “help the cause”?
Some time ago Brad pointed out to me that in Cantabile there is a window where you can view the midi events generated by the keyboards.
I posted to Brad a problem I have with my other keyboard, an OB3 Square, which doesn’t want to know that it works with Cantabile Performer, as the Pa80 works very well.
The Oberheim (do you know her ??) should have some problems with MIDI IN / OUT, so I use it individually because it has some good Hammond clones and I can’t complain !!
I ask you this because, before making any trouble, I would like to understand if I can view any button I press on the Pa80 and see it displayed in the midi events window that Brad was referring to.
Sergio,
I looked at your pa80 manual to see how the Pedal Input was labeled on that keyboard (DAMPER) to figure how to get the Rotary Speaker in the B-5 Organ working for you. I use the typical Piano “Sustain” pedal (M-Audio). It is a “non-latching” type switch (ON when pressed, OFF when released. When I play a Piano VST, it acts as my Sustain Pedal. When I play the B-5, it acts as my Rotary Switch (press for FAST, release for SLOW). If you were to use your “latching” ON/OFF switch, it would operate like the “Half-moon” switch on the Hammond console. Also, I am assuming (could be trouble) that the “DAMPER” Jack on the pa80 is sending CC64 messages. If not, you’ll have to change the MIDI settings in the B-5 GUI to match what your pedal is sending.
As to the MIDI Monitor, select the Input for your keyboard in C3, look under “View” in the Toolbar and find the Monitor. Open that and operate your pedal to see what messages that you are receiving.
Doug
Doug, could you take a picture of the Pa80 mapping? I no longer have the manual.
Where are you from?
Sergio
Sergio,
I’m in the Wild & Wonderful State of West Virginia, USA
pa80 Manual (look in Section 22-2 for MIDI Implementation Chart):
Looking at your “Professional Arranger”, it seems to be more of a “Self-contained” Work Station than a “controller”. While it can send out MIDI data, it is limited in what it sends. I’m only looking at a PDF document. You, obviously, can determine much better than I how it interacts with a PC.
Doug
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Doug,
I know my Korg is self-sufficient, I also know it’s very limited (I have owned it for over 15 years), but it has been useful to me, especially since I met Cantabile.
Cantabile allowed me to get to know the midi world. The experiments I am doing with the Pa80 make me understand that certain situations can be handled better with another type of keyboard.
That’s why, as I said in other posts, I’m considering buying an Oxygen 61 or Axiom 61.
The OB3 Square also feels good, but the Hammond sound like that produced by B5 and other recent plugins are another What.
Cantabile gives me this excellent opportunity, you “digital” (I still “analog” …), the same and above all Brad give me a considerable support! All the technical stuff you are helping me with I hope to do as you told me that I will have to give it back to new Cantabile beginners.
I’ll look at the PDF tomorrow (it’s almost night here …). Meanwhile, I tell you that the pedals are fine. Tomorrow I will look for the Korg EC5 pedal board to try to connect it.
Indeed, see if you find anything technical on the EC5.
Sergio
Sergio,
Don’t get ahead of yourself. Get the Damper pedal working with the B-5 GUI (FAST/SLOW) before you start complicating things with trying what you can get the EC5 pedal to control (it looks, to me, like it’s function is to work directly with th pa80, not as much external devices).
Doug
Hi Doug.
I plugged in the sustain button and made the change from CC1 to CC64 as you suggested. Everything OK. If I keep the pedal B5 pressed it goes into Fast, as I leave it goes into slow.
I visualized everything on the midi monitor and the CC64 and the transition from 0 to 127 are displayed. So everything is Ok.
I tried to connect the PDL / SW with no useful result to the Leslie.
This pedal directly affects the Arranger of the Pa80 by inserting the accompaniment of the Pa80. Perhaps, to use this pedal, you need to disable it from the arranger.
Too complicated and perhaps useless !!
That’s why I think a midi controller is more useful (e.g. M-Audio …).
Another thing: is it clear from the manual if the EC5 pedal can be programmed or works only with the arranger?
Sergio
Hi Doug, Hi everyone.
As mentioned in the previous post, I tested the Damper (sustain) pedal and it works well. So the problem is solved !!
I also tested the EC5 pedal board and it only works with the Pa80 arranger. The other jack (PDL / SW) could be programmed as a pedal Swell, but it’s not useful to me now, so I’ll look at this possibility later.
I wanted to ask one thing, Doug in particular. In one of his posts I read that he installed NanoKontrol2.
When I was looking for the no-latching pedal for slow / fast, I found, among the many things I had purchased and never installed, NanoKontrol2, NanoPad2, and two Leslie pedals (Korg G4 and another with a valve inside it). I had completely forgotten about it !! When I started playing with my band, I had put away everything except my keyboards (they did “furniture” at home …).
And of the two Leslie pedals, if I remember correctly, the best was the G4! The other was going strong with the saturated signal, a la Jon Lord !!
Now I ask this:
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is it more convenient to use the two NanoControllers or buy an M-Audio (maybe I’ll get it later)?
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Would it be complicated to configure the 2 NanoControllers?
Sergio
Sergio,
First of all:
What, exactly, are you trying to accomplish? What are you needing to “control”?
Second:
The Korg “nano” series are useful, depending on the situation. I use my nanoKONTROL2 to control racks in C3 (Running/Not Running), gain in C3 (Main Output, Rack Output and Media Player Output), activating Knobs and Switches in my B-5 GUI and Part/Global control in an external Sound Module. It comes pre-programed (Transport, CCs) and there is an editor if you want to reassign the nanoKONTROL2.
Third:
Would you have need of the Manual for your pa80 in Italian?
Doug
1 - With NanoPad, can states be controlled? or the bindings?
2 - NanoKontrol I remember getting it for the drawbars.
3 - manual in Italian? yeah!!!
Sergio
You will download Italian PA80 manual on Korg support page, here. I easily found that searching on Google.
In Cantabile, any CC#/PC# from any controller may be used for bindings, as is, or after a conversion (including drawbars). A little MIDI protocol skill, of course, is mandatory.
Cantabile is very user-friendly, its learning curve is not so hard. Take your time, print the online manual for reference. And… don’t think to make everything overnight.
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Sergio,
I can only speak for the nanoKONTROL2, but it sends Control messages and you can use the Default or program your own and use it for C3.
Here is a link for the pa80 Manual:
(Let me know when you’ve downloaded the pa80 Manual so I can take it out of my Dropbox.)
Doug
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Tank you