Amplitube 5 Param not working in states

My switches control parameters in Amplitube. Those parameters are the ones in Cantabile. But, I set my rig like a traditional pedal board, and switch on and off when I need to. It’s easier than switching states, because I still have to switch states as well. If I switch on/off several times, it’s easier this way, instead of constantly switching states. Understand, this is for live performance, not automating within a DAW. I have used 5 in states, but for my purposes, I go the other way. Don’t know if Cantabile has a problem with 5. BTW…are you using a rack?

Now, I do have an Amplitube rack, where I change settings with states, without using the “parameters” section. It works very well. I can switch amps, turn pedals on/off, adjust gain…whatever I need in each particular state. All I have to do is set AT settings, save as a state, reset anything, and create another state. Racks are the way to go if want to use states.

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Thank you. I really appreciate the help. Using AT5 params in a rack works as expected. I did the exact sequence of steps as before… this time using rack states instead of song states. Ultimately I believe both should work since the Neural DSP plugin param worked in both cases… but I can work with this.

What I’m trying to achieve is automated stomp box pushes based on markers I place in an added backing track. I don’t want to do all the manual foot tapping for some tunes. This is a start in getting that to work.

You can do that with the Cantabile media player. The racks can be changed at the song level, along with states. Cantabile is quite an amazing piece of software. Good luck on your venture.

Exactly what I was intending to do! :slight_smile:
Thanks again!

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BTW…since you are using Neural DSP, it is worthwhile to check out Nembrini and Mercuriall plugs (if you haven’t already), as they are also using Neural Modeling like Neural DSP. I understand Amplitube also used some of the same modeling, which makes 5 a completely different beast from 4.

That’s cool, I didn’t know they all used the same modelling technique. I can definitely tell something is better now. Will definitely check them out. I never liked amplitube up until now. It always sounded fizzy… never good to my ears. Some of the cab and stomp models in A5 are just killer. The leslie, uni-vibe and phase 90 are really good.

We’ve discussed the IK Leslie at length on my organ page. Many of us use it on several organ plugs. IK developed it with Leslie. All the stomps are now Neural Modeled…that’s why everything is sounding, and performing like the real deal. The default Amplitube page has a killer Marshall setup. Amplitube also has a modeled Kustom Amp, which I love because I used to own one. If you like the band “Boston”, AT has modeled the Rockman unit Tom Scholz developed…again, another killer.

So funny I was going to mention the Rockman model too. Yeah it’s spot on. I purchased a Quad Cortex pre-order which I’m hoping will someday get here. Amplitube 5 was supposed to tide me over till it gets here. :slight_smile: I’m thinking it’ll hold its own if not for just those mentioned.

Cantabile is supposed to drive all this instead of my old daw. I’m hoping Cantabile picks up traction and gets mainstream. The possibilities of it as a creative live control device are endless.

Good Luck on that! :rofl: My son ordered one, but has been given no date it will be available.

Very True…If you get a chance, view Terry Leigh Britton’s Youtube page. He did several Webinars, and even though I was floored with everything he did, he barely touched the surface of what Cantabile can do. @brad has given us a huge tool for live performance. Nothing like it anywhere!

I still use AT in several songs, but I have all the Nerual DSP plugs, and most of the Mercuriall and Nembrini. The Mercuriall SS-11X is my favorite toy at the moment.

So as it turns out… the problem had to do with me using Amplitube 5 as a VST2 plugin. Automation parameters do not work at all for either song states OR rack states. Using the VST3 version of Amplitube 5 seems to work as expected. I thought update this page with that information for anyone else who runs into a similar situation.

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Hi Corky.
I recently took advantage of the IK offer.
I bought Amplitube and TRacks together.
The Leslie TR5 has no problems with Slow, Brake and Fast settings.
With the Leslie Amplitube I have difficulty with the settings.
I know you have had the opportunity to address this topic, but I do not know how to associate buttons for the Slow, Brake and Fast controls.
Could you explain how to do it?

Cheers.
Sergio

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Hi Sergio. This was my way of using Amplitube speed control. There may be better solutions, but I still use my original approach. You have to go deep into the plugin to get what you want out of Amplitube. You have to remember, this is a guitar plugin, so not keyboard friendly.

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Hi @jwrana,

I’ve been curious about those extra parameters in many of my plugins. Would you help explain to us how you go about assigning them to a control and also include some examples showing your states and/or bindings please?

Thank you,
Al

Its been a while since I’ve used Amplitube… bought an Axe FX3!!

What exactly are you trying to do? Assign brake to a button? What button… something in cantabile? An external keyboard?

There is a little changes in Amplitube 5 graphic. Here’s my example.

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I don’t really have anything in mind for them right now but I’m sure I’ll come up with some good ideas once I figure out how to use them. I just wanted to understand the process. What are the steps used in making use of those extra non specific parameters? It doesn’t have to be anything related to Amplitube.
Just make up an example and show us. Thanks!

Plugin issue, not a Cantabile bug. Thread renamed and category changed to “related”.

Paolo

Basically these parameters are used in automation of plugins controls. There’s a ton of stuff of this on the internet. Here’s a quick overview.

The parameters are part of the VST plugin standard used to map control values back and forth between the plugin (eg. Ampitube, Kontakt, etc) and some host application (eg. Cantabile, Cubase, Logic, etc). You have to assign some plugin control (eg. amplitube/cab/leslie/brake) to a param number (say #1) inside the plugin. (In the amplitube plugin… see the graphic cpaolo just posted… it’s under the ‘automation’ tab) Every vst plugin should have a similar way to do this.

Once this is done, the host application (in this case Cantabile) will be able to both receive and post values for parameter 1 (the brake value). Cantabile I know can use this parameter inside a ‘song part’ to store whether the brake is on/off depending how you set the value for the particular ‘part’. It’s pretty easy in Cantabile. Create a song part, enable the parameter and set the brake value using Amplitube. Do the same in a second song part but set the brake to the opposite value. Now switching between song states turn on/off the brake.

In a DAW, say Cubase, the values for that parameter can be recorded… then ‘played back’ to the underlying vst track, thus changing the underlying vst value you set as the track plays.

You gotta get your hands dirty and just try it. Then you’ll see how it works.

I got it figured out. Thanks!