White fader knob disappears when setting low / high volumes

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Hey guys,

since I have started working with Cantabile there is some kind of strange behavior regarding the “knob” of the levels of an object:

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When you set it either to a very low or high setting it disappears. Why?

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Does this makes any sense?

Best,
Chris

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Hi Chris,

I’ve seen behavior like this in other windows apps if the display is made more readable by increasing the DPI (or whatever other method might be used) to make a small screen easier to read.

Doug

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This is almost certainly a side effect of using a binding that sets the value outside the range displayable by the slider. What do you have selected in Options -> Keyboard and Controls -> Control Curves?

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I use encoders so there is no curve.

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Actually there are still two curves used - the MIDI one and the slider one. And even so there is still a range associated with the binding.

I think the problem here is that the default MIDI curve allows gain values up to 14db, but the default slider only goes to 7.3.

Try either:

  1. setting the max range of the binding to 7.3 and it should clamp it appropriately.
  2. changing all three the curve settings to use the same curve.

Brad

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Okay. But why does the slider only goes to 7.3db but can go to +14db when accessed via midi?

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That is entirely up to you: you can set the slider curve, level meter curve and MIDI control curve separately:

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You can actually define your own control curve → see the guides section on Control Curves

When the curves are all the same, the slider shouldn’t disappear, but sometimes it is useful to have a different MIDI control curve (e.g. I prefer to have 0 dB at MIDI value 64)

Cheers,

Torsten

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Ah, alright. Now I know what you mean!

Okay. So I see… if I set it to “Classic” it seems to work like I expect.

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This one just bit me … was scratching my head for a while when the “ball” on my volume slider evaporated.

I am wondering if the default values for Tools => Options => Keyboard & Controls => Control Curves should all be the same? It would avoid this issue. (But maybe the MIDI Control Curve setting is set to “Cantabile (Classic MIDI)” for a good reason? So as not to break legacy setups??).

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Amazing. I thought I knew Cantabile. But the Control Curves option was new to me.
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