Is there anything I can help you with in setting up and using LivePrompter? Is it the setting up or the scripting of songs that is the challenge?
Considering your situation with multiple bands, organizing songs must be a priority. LivePrompter allows you to either keep all your 450 song files in one directory and then organize them in books for each band (just add “book” tags to your songs; useful if repertoires overlap, since songs can belong to multiple books) or have multiple song directories (one for each band) and then start LivePrompter with a different .ini file so that it pulls songs from different directories for each configuration. That’s what I am using: one directory for my band, another for unplugged / campfire repertoire.
Let me know how I can help you with LP! I considered using Cantabile’s show notes, but since I don’t want my Cantabile laptop sitting on my keyboard, I actually prefer two distinct devices, one as my sound center (with the display focused on information on the current patch) and another (my 8 inch tablet) purely focused on displaying chords and lyrics (and fully timed scrolling…). Now that I have the MIDI connectivity working between LP and Cantabile, it also works seamlessly as one unit.
I am very excited about getting this set up as you described, sounds like what I have needed for some time. I am gigging tonight, so I will start on this tomorrow and will probably be contacting in the next few days on where my sticking points arise. Thank you so much for the reply and offer of help.
Jordan: I use a very interesting pedal configuration. The most important pedal is a switch pedal that changes my setups from one to the next because when I walk on stage my entire night is set up incrementally. Combination 1 is the first sound and whatever combination I get to, number 203, is the last sound, so every time my sound changes I’m on that pedal, so it’s crucial that it be in the right place and not moving around.
Beyond that I use a sustain pedal and an expression pedal for fade-ins and wah-wah things. What’s interesting about my setup since I focus on one main keyboard, my keyboard is on a very cool rotating stand which was made for me by a builder in Holland by the name of Patrick Slaats. What this means for me in terms of pedals is that when I turn around from position to position I want to be able to have those three pedals that I mentioned in all positions, so we have this complex wiring thing that my tech put together to be able to merge the pedals into one.
Oh, and I have a fourth pedal for this thing called the Music Pad. It’s kind of like an advanced cheat sheet. It’s a computer but it’s a pad on which I can put music notation files, I can write on it, I can leave written reminders. I have a pedal that increments the page for that so if I want to use it during a tune, I don’t have to touch anything and it goes to the next page (or you can touch either side of the screen to go to the next page).
@Torsten. What is the Big Red Button programmed to? Global Rack with SongList-> Next part or program? Or individual entries in each Song State with Next State?
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I use the line 6 FBV Express USB MK2 controller
It’s small and got it’s own software for programming so it’s very flexible and accurate.
I use a Aturia KeyLab 88 keyboard wich gives me plenty of knobs for programming.
Great responses in this thread. Glad I asked the question.
If you’re looking for a single foot switch which is rugged and reliable, try something from the HOSA 500 series. I use a couple of 502’s and am very pleased with them.
It’s programmed to Song States → Next State (Instant) in the global/background rack.
I also have the two bottom keys on my keyboard programmed via background rack to Next State (Instant) and Previous State (Instant), but the red button is my go-to method. The bottom keys I use mainly to step back and forth between the states during editing and rehearsals.
Jordan has moved on from this now. He used to have two sets of his three pedals, for when his keyboard is rotated into two main positions, merging the pedal inputs as described above. Now he has a metal base that rotates with his keyboard, and his three pedals are attached to that, and move around with the keyboard, and the whole lot is permanently mounted on his own riser. I had a good close look at his setup when my band supported Dream Theater at a festival a couple of years ago.
Thanks. I’m having an issue with “Next State” bindings in the Background Rack. It works if I put the Next State bindings in the Song States, but not in the Background rack. The Song bindings for Song>Next Song/Part don’t work either. The Next Song bindings seem to work fine. I’ll do some more troubleshooting today. It may be an issue with the experimental build (3160) or it may be that I still have something wrong.
Hi all, for me, Viva Viva the footswitch to let hands doing everything like hold notes, play other things, clap themself, etc…
In my case, it lets me to switch many kind of sounds during performance => states, songs and play background effect by media player during playing notes.
With manual you can do many things like toggle button effect, hold for ON and release for OFF and classic button effect setting all buttons individually. It’s very light with led to help the state.
I also use a footswitch to trigger the next state, but instead of using a midi pedal, i use a USB footswitch (USB Foot Switch 2 Triple from Scythe)
I can program that footswitch to a keypress combination i.e. CTRL-ALT-N and assign a hotkey in cantabile with target Next State (instant)
Benefit: The footswitch is much cheaper than midi footswitches (20€) afaik
Nice idea! But does it work if some other app has the focus?
I was thinking of getting a specialised keypad for specific Cantabile operations like bringing up a tuner app GUI, next/previous song, switching between live and routing modes etc, but my concern was that it relied on Cantabile having the Windows focus on order to capture the keyboard events.
As a consequence, maybe a good feature request for Cantabile would be the ability to intercept key presses that are binding triggers, even when Cantabile doesn’t have the focus.
No, that is not working right now as i remember correctly. But I think Brad already has a trello card on implementing hot keys as global hot keys, then it would work even if cantabile has no focus.
I like to use my Expressionpedal for multiple configurations…
sometimes “Kickdown”(127) is changing the songstate…
otherwise i do this with a little Korg Nanocontroller…
They’re horrible from the factory, but the UNO chip with the smooth CC option changes things enormously.
The factory issue has massive gaps in the CC output, especially at the low end, which makes smooth fades impossible, The UNO chip not only cures that problem but adds in functionality that is invaluable, such as stomp box mode.
The chip is 24 eu.
If it’s the actual action of the pedal, not sure one can do anything about that - but I can certainly attest to the improvement in control once that chip was in.
Sidenote - I actually complained to Behringer about the hopeless state of the CC output from their pedals and they feigned ignorance. The original UNO duplicates the Behringer behavior - but Ossan was kind enough to make a special issue for me, which is now available, at no extra cost, when requested.
