Using USB Direct box


#1

Do you need audio drivers for your laptop when using Cantabile with a USB direct box which doesn’t need drivers to operate ?


#2

Hey Clint,

A box like this does require drivers for the usb side of things but it may be they are in firmware on a chip in the box or generic windows type. As a result if the product claim was that you needed no drivers to use it with a windows machine then you wouldn’t need any drivers for the laptop. One other consideration would be if it was ASIO audio driver or WASAPI driver used.

Dave


#3

Class compliant drivers?


#4

That’s my thoughts on it for sure, Richard. Indeed it’s the best explanation of it.

Dave


#5

Yes class compliant drivers


#6

For this kind of class compliant audio devices, you need to either use Cantabile’s WASAPI audio output configuration or try ASIO4ALL - it realizes a generic ASIO driver on top of the low-level Windows drivers.

Personally, I wouldn’t trust these boxes very far for a live VSTi playing scenario - they’re generally built as an easy way to play audio files through a professional audio setup, but they aren’t optimized for low latency. If you want to play VST instruments or use VST effects live, it’s advisable to invest in a decent audio interface with well-optimized low-latency drivers.

Cheers,

Torsten


#7

This was highly recommended by my Sweetwater tech over a dedicated audio interface for playing live and it works awesome tried and tested this for 3 rehearsals and 2-4 hour gigs and it worked flawlessly with zero latency issues . I do have a Focusrite 18i8 audio interface in my home studio and I compared the two systems and noticed no difference .I am very happy with this setup .If i was to go into a rackmount PC and complete VST system i probably would use a dedicated audio interface over the Whirlwind pcUSB .A lot easier to set up this portable system .


#8

Good to hear that this works for you!

I’ve checked out a number of simple class-compliant USB audio interfaces; most are difficult to drive down below a 256 samples audio buffer at reasonable processor load; that’s why I rely on optimized audio interfaces like RME Babyface and my Zoom UAC-2. They consistently give me good performance at low latencies. But if this USB box is good enough for your setup then that’s great!

Cheers,

Torsten


#9

You may want to check this out for one third the cost first.


#10

This is what I use, too. No bells or whistles but solid as a rock.


#11

What kind of latency settings are you using? Below 512? Double buffering?


#12

I just use the default settings and have had no issues so far .will find out this weekend when i finally play my first gig using Cantabile and the usb direct box with the Alesis Vortex 2 wireless midi controller .


#13

Even though the Peavy USB-P is USB 1.1 (I think) I A/B’d it with the performance of a Presonus Audiobox VSL which is USB 2.0 and there was ZERO difference in latency and load. It can handle 512 very easily. I typically set mine to 512 for the past 4 years and it is perfect. I have roughed this up for 4 years and it is going strong. Nice to have the mono/stereo option depending on the house I am playing in and the sound man preference.


#14

I discovered this after seeing it over and over used by DJ’s. They said it was dead silent and very solid.


#15

I have mine at 256. I use Voicemeeter Banana and BitSum to keep things balanced.