I had some songs set up, so when to start programming and setting up a new one, I made a mistake changing a sound in a state (snapshot) from a previous song. So I deleted the rack from the new song and when I went to my previous songs that were already set up, all snapshots were gone. All of them! Now hours of work atre down the drain. I looked and looked for undo and redo to recover what I lost. Could not find. Any ideas? Cantabile is NOT for beginners. For the simplest things I’d like to do, there sure are a lot of hurdles and complicated language. Don’t misunderstand, it’s a wonderful program, it’s just very complicated.
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Hi Dean,
I’m sorry you have hit a snag. Your are correct about the complexity of the Cantabile app in that it can be that way when you use more advanced features like linked racks and rack states in songs. To be more sure of what happened it may help to ask a few questions to verify some stuff. First, was the rack you deleted from the song a linked rack or an embedded rack? Second, when you deleted the rack was it from inside the song and not from the files directory where the rack files are stored. If you could start by letting me know these specifics I hope that we could determine what happened. Also for your information undo/redo only works when you are in the song you are editing and haven’t saved it yet. The only undo that would have prevented this I think would have been to save a copy of the song with a different name before you edited so you had a backup.
Cheers,
Dave
It was a linked rack with snapshots from other songs. And the was in the new song when I deleted it. Hope that helps.
Dean
OK, then the linked rack should still exist as a file. If you start a new song and load the rack it is also empty? If so can you post the rack file here?
Let me try doing that Dave. Hang on…
Ok so when I load the linked rack to a new song, it is empty. it doesn’t have the snapshot setups that I once had. It’s like I may have to start over again. That’s ok. But when I do and a similar situation occurs, before I get button happy, how would I restore such a mistake? I think I deleted the whole linked rack even though it’s in my file explorer. It just an empty rack with no vst snapshots loaded. I must have pressed some wrong button😂
Better question: how would I AVOID such a mistake?
To avoid this I use a USB stick and backup the whole Cantabile folder from /Documents root every time I make changes to it (Any Songs, Racks, Media files, etc ..) because it defaults to holding all the songs and rack files.
If you could please post the rack file from file explorer here, it should upload by dropping it into a message you make here. I can check it’s innards for how it was configured and clues about what exactly happened here.
I’m going out of the house right now, but I’ll send a screenshot probably in the next 12 hours. I do appreciate your help Dave!
Dave, sorry about my tardiness to respond! I rearranged the few songs that I messed up and saved the racks to a flash drive like you do. I’m getting the hang of using the snapshots and creating states for various parts of a song now. I’m going to try to assign buttons on my midi controller (panorama t4) tomorrow when I get back to work on it. Your thoughts on using “switch”, “next state, previous state”-- or a specific state for setting it up a controller binding within a song?
Hi Dean,
Glad you got things sorted. 
On switching to previous or next states I’d use that if had to cycle through a lot of states when building songs and selecting sounds in those states or if I only had a few buttons to spare and needed to get the most out of my choices. If I had a lot of tones that were used often live and and had more buttons I would choose selecting a specific state for each button. So it depends on those factors for me anyway, I hope this helps.
Dave