Stuck midi notes -arrgggh!


#1

All has been going well with my setup for months but now I’m getting occasional problems with a stuck midi note. It’s happened once at each of the past two band practices. In the heat of the moment, I have not gathered much information. I do know that it’s happened on the same keyboard, but with different plugins. I don’t think it was the same keyboard key but I can’t say for sure. I unplugged the USB cable but the note continued. I switched states in the song- still stuck. Then I switched songs and it stopped.

What steps do I need to go through to trouble-shoot this?


#2

surely someone else on the forum has encountered this issue ?


#3

Hi @LeesKeys

The best way to diagnose these kinds of issues is to enable MIDI logging. In Options -> Diagnostics -> Log MIDI In Events and Log VST Events. See if you can reproduce the issue and send me the log file so I can check it out.

That said I’m not aware of any issues with stuck notes. The few times this has been reported and a log file sent it’s been the note off event not received by Cantabile.

That said anything is possible but I’d need to understand what’s happening with a log file.

Brad


#4

thanks Brad. Since I don’t know when it will occur, is it ok to just leave logging “on”?


#5

You can, but test it first. Perhaps leave it on for practice, turn it off when live if you can.

Also, forgot to mention - don’t forget the panic button should kill any stuck notes. You can bind a button on your controller to this if you like (Target = Engine|All Sounds Off).


#6

Could it be that you changed something on your keyboard (for example the transmit channel) while sustaining or holding some notes down? Some keyboards will send the note-off or pedal up message on the new channel, rather than clean up the note from the original channel, leading to a hanging note.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think I’ve ever had a stuck note in Cantabile (2 or 3), except for when I’ve sent a note-on into Cantabile from my keyboards without a corresponding note-off (in which case Cantabile correctly does exactly what it’s told and plays the note indefinitely).

Neil


#7

Hello I’m encountering this, and I think @Neil_Durant is right.

Most of the time it is created by :

  • Play note (NoteOn) with pedal pressed for example on channel 1
  • Changing channel on keyboard to channel 2 (still pedal pressed)
  • Pedal realease (launch on channel2)

So the channel 1 note is still ringing… I know I can learn to correct this by playing better but is there a MIDI way to correct this ?

ideas :

  • PedalRelease sent on ALL CHANNEL
  • Changing channel automatically kill notes on previous channel (brutal mode)

#8

I was experimenting with my m-audio Axiom 61 (relative encoding) and somehow ended up where I would get stuck notes occurring seemingly randomly. I reset the keyboard and the problem hasn’t happened since.


#9

I have had terrible problems with stuck notes when my MIDI EXPRESS 128 was in a USB 3 port. Zero problems where in a USB 2 port

Also had similar problems on my Kronos, when I inadvertently has a pedal on my FC300 mapped to the sustain pedal CC! Doh!!