Official Cantabile Stream Deck Plugin Now Available

Thanks for pointing that out @brad. However, I actually prefer using the Next Song, Previous Song buttons - and then I use $(SongTitle) and $(NextSong) for display. With this configuration my current song is always in the same square and I can still ‘look’ ahead to the next song.
I’m wondering if you could do something similar to ‘Load Index’ with the ‘Next Song’. I would like to see (Next Song +1) or (Current Song + 2).

Alternatively, and this may be preferable, could you make the Load Index work in conjunction with the Next Song button, but scroll the list instead of moving the ‘active’ square?

Thank you, -David

Interesting idea… logged it here for now.

I have just setup the Stream Deck on Cantabile. I use them all the time with vMix, and I mostly use BitFocus companion to control the SD. Is that an option? Or perhaps overkill?

Secondly, is it possible to control rack states (embedded rack), or is Song States all there is?

Thanks, btw, for fantastic software, and now for amazing control thereof. :slight_smile:

Hi @ricksteuart

I’m aware of the Bitfocus companion but I haven’t looked at it in any detail so I can’t really say off hand how it fits together.

Nothing built-in for that right now. If you just want a simple next/previous state buttons then you could probably set that up with the bindings action. I’ve logged this for consideration here, but let me know what you’re after here - a scrollable list, just next/previous etc…

Brad

Thanks for your response @brad!

Here’s what I’m doing. I’m using 2 keyboards in my rig. I’d like to pull up a song and have my states available (by index) for each keyboard. I may need to pull up a sound on the top keyboard, and then another on the bottom at a different point. Also, putting instruments into linked racks (as you suggest in your video) and would like to create states for different patches in that linked rack. The ability to then choose patches based on whichever rack is loaded in the song would be great. I have used bindings and the “midi” implementation on the SD to call the states from the bottom keyboard rack. It works, but it’s a little klunky.

I know, really long (and convoluted) reply. Sorry. :blush:

Perhaps the states by index parameter on the stream deck button could allow for index 0,1 for state 1 on the song rack, index 1,1 for state 1 on the first rack, etc.? Just tossing an idea out there.

Anyway, I’ll keep working on my setup, and I appreciate your time. :blush:

I used Companion to control a mapping projector and, though it worked, the software is clunky and doesn’t play well with others. I wouldn’t go back to it.

Hi, this topic is really interesting and it’s convinced me try a Stream Deck. I just have a question with setup please. With enabling Cantabile’s network server, does this require the Laptop to be connected to the internet?
I’d be running Stream deck on the same Laptop as Cantabile. I prefer to not have Wifi, bluetooth or Antivirus enabled so the laptop doesn’t run slow etc.
Thanks in advance, Terry.

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Not 100% positive this works or not for this particular situation, but in general, specifying the IP address as 127.0.0.1 will point traffic to the local machine. So if the web server is also set at 127.0.0.1, they should see each other. In theory, that should be all that’s needed to run everything on the local machine and not have external internet connectivity active.

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thanks for the info Sekim.
I’ve since discovered Stream Deck is only for Windows 10 so that rules me out (still running Win7). Cheers.

For those checking this in the future, you do not need to be connected to the internet. Just make sure Cantabile’s network server box is checked in the options. I received my Stream Deck today and it took about 5 minutes to set up.

I haven’t done the upgrade to the new Binding version. In this discussion Brad referenced volume control limitations with the old binding system. Does this new version allow for Steam Deck to control bindings to volume controls?

Hi @lorne.white,

The stream deck plugin can control global volume levels, but it can’t control individual levels of plugins, media players, routes etc…

What exactly do you want to do?

Brad

So far the existing functionality will do the job. I wish I invested in a stream deck earlier for the integration you have provided. In addition to the streaming I do with OBS.

When I do have some layered instruments it’s nice to be able to adjust a specific volume up or down. Is there anything in the new Binding system for that?

I think the binding system can handle this and it’s more a limitation of the StreamDeck code… but I’d need to check to be sure.

love working with the stream deck plugin and have now updated to the stream deck plus, it would be great if i could use the rotary encoders without having to go through the additional midi plugin.
are there any plans for this?

further question:
i want to trigger diffrent samples via media player, how can i manage to display the media player name under the transport button?

Hi Tobi,

I asked here about StreamDeck+ support at the end of last year to see if anyone was interested and got the impression it wasn’t that needed.

See this post.

I’m not against adding support for this, but priorities…

Brad

I just installed the Android mobile StreamDeck app and am playing with the 4 available buttons (free version) just to get an idea of what it can do. I found it handy for some OBS work I was doing.

Which SteamDeck (physical version) works best for controlling Cantabile? I would probably buy a less expensive one as I already have many buttons on my Axiom keyboards bound and working well.

EDIT - just looked at the thread link Brad posted in the post above and it looks like 15 button is the way to go?

Both are great although since I got the XL I haven’t used the 15.

Main thing I like about the XL is you can fit 6 songs/states horizontally with next/previous buttons at each end which provides pretty good navigation without having to go into a second screen (like on the 15).

If you’re not going to be using it for song/state selection, or if you need only next/previous song/state (not jump to song/state) the 15 should be good enough.

XL you can fit two rows of these, one for songs, one for states:

On the 15, you first press a “choose” button:

which shows a second screen to pick from (but then you get 12 items to pick from)

But, you can do the same thing on XL and get 28 songs/states on one screen:

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The XL is great for the studio, but I find the 15-button enough for on-stage.

If the Stream Deck+ came in a 6-wide version (or 8-wide, even better) it might interest me, but not in its current form.

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Exactly my thoughts - and my current setup: 15 buttons for live, and the XL on my studio desk…
No need for the Streamdeck+ in my setup - I have faders and dials a-plenty…

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