Glitches - probably CPU throttling

I have my first gig in years coming up this Friday - and obviously this is when the PC starts to act out, I get a lot of glitches, and the profiler indicates that I am way over the top. I have not made changes to the songs recently, so my guess is that it is something else.

When I look at the CPU speed seems to change quite a bit. I have checked (and changed and changed back) the processor speed in the power plan settings, they are 100%. I am using Process Lasso, but I am in doubt if there are any settings in PL that I can change to get this to work.

Any suggestions for what to look at or what to try or change are highly appreciated.

Hi @TorstenH,

sorry to hear that your PC is doing that…I guess that’s just a corollary of Murphy’s law (“Anything that can go wrong will go wrong…at the worst time!”).

That’s what comes first on my mind, in no particular order:

  1. try to switch off and on the Audio Engine in Cantabile. This sometimes reduces the load.

  2. check USB cables and look for USB errors (my driver is Yamaha Steinberg USB driver and it tells me if there are errors)

  3. check if power handling of USB hubs and devices is set to “Never put to sleep to save power” (or something like that) in the Device Manager. Sometimes Windows just switches it back to “Can make it to sleep to save power” when I am not watching… :angry:

  4. check if there are other processes competing with Cantabile (I have noticed that windows services sometimes get active and try to access the net or other resources aggressively…I have tried to identify them and to give them lower priority in PL, since I also use it)

  5. check if there is a particular plugin behaving nasty, using the profiler. I had to switch off “Multicore” in Diva at some time, because the load was much higher when Multicore was active. However, this setting did not give problems before and I can’t say why it started to happen.

Just a few tips, maybe I could come up with some more, but probably some real expert on the forum will chime in, I hope.

Gabriel

P.S. I am assuming that your system was working well in the present configuration. Otherwise you could also consider increasing the buffer size in Cantabile.

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Thanks, really appreciated. The plugin that springs to mind is the VB3-II 2.0 (I’m the process of upgrading) that seems to be affected there most - but I haven’t changed that for a long time, and the issues started recently.

I will go through the list meticulously and see if it hits the nail. I have tried some of these, but panicked a bit and needed structure and a little guidance - thanks for providing that!

Hi,

The one thing I would do is to go through all the recommended tuning settings, as Windows still thinks it knows best when some major updates are applied. E.g. on a recent update all of the USB Power Suspend options had been re-enabled, and I am pretty certain that once core parking got turned on.

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Makes a lot of sense. I just went for the obvious candidates, but you are right, start from scratch and check all settings.

I’ve been through all settlings, and basically reset the configuration and started all over. Didn’t get it to work as well as it used to, but I’ve changed buffer size and that made the glitched disappear. There’s a small latency now that I’ll need to accept, I’m not sure if it is because I know the latency had changed or if I really can tell the difference. At least it will get me through the show on Friday.

Thanks for the advice, it was really helpful get some structure on the process. And nice to look at all the old postings in this forum about setup :slight_smile:

And just found that I had auto-recording enabled, and it seems to me that it made a difference turning it off. So now I moved the buffer size one step up.

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Just for the knowledge, how much resources did the auto - record add?

I’m not sure, but I can test it by adding it again. But I prefer not to change anything until after the gig - debut, small venue, small crowd, but first time in years, so I want to feel confident :-).

Any number in the profiler you think of in particular? Otherwise I’ll just take the average max of the total.

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By all means don’t mess up anything, all I was interested in was the recorder resource usage. I can do my own look at it. Thanks for the reply Torsten.:slight_smile:

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This is interesting, I’ve also been having more glitches over the last couple of months than I used to, and have had to swap out a plugin or two to compensate, as well as increase the buffer.
My gut feeling was that it was my computer rather than Cantabile, but not 100% sure. I keep my computer up-to-date so wonder if a Windows 11 update might have messed things up. Would be interested if there are similar experiences and fixes.

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I am going through the plugins now, a few of the effects can probably be replaced. They are apparently aimed at DAW production more than live setup.