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#81

Thanks everyone for the help and Corky for the topic! I know I was a late comer to this discussion. I have a show coming up and I would like to have it dialed in (mostly).


#82

If you need more help let me know. You can PM me as well if you like. Can help you tame Blue3 if you want to also go that route. I am using 5 different Hammond VST’s, and each one is useful for particular songs.

Regards

Corky


#83

THIS IS IT! I’m happy- I have achieved The Sound. No, it’s still not identical, the eq is still slightly off and the left hand isn’t as meaty; it could still be tweaked. But if I were in a Yes cover band I’d say this was generally close enough :wink:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WYh0x0sykVloU5ZhNJvVkcTgS-V7FUZO

Corky I tried yours too and I liked it. I was in a rush though so I don’t know if I had every setting exactly nailed. BTW this time I do have screen pictures, when I upload the from my phone I’ll add them here.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1avlKOo4sXGLnuqMaWzmjO8wnZYSagoWK
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1X8dURcptZ2dTM1Eg0-dHqLJhX5w1uT_2

Wave Arts Tube Saturator:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WAQU9pap46CdSzyWdPIEc3IT3_isrKBB

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1anIkz0OyGfGogXZeX_tQr5bwE59dmzMr

Apparently I forgot to get the setup page of the Leslie but I think the other settings are fairly inconsequential.


#84

It’s definitely close. Been listening to the two side by side, and only two things I suggest…a little less grit, and a little more sparkle and less mid (probably EQ). You definitely are there. Your grit sound is perfect, but the real version has less of it. Otherwise, I really like it. :grin: Drive that sound thru a huge sound system and the walls will rattle!!


#85

Yep, the exact level of drive is crucial. I kept turning it up and down lol It sounds good to me in the opening chords but in that next section it’s clearly too much. I actually decided I just liked the extra midrange even though it’s not in the original Hearing it in a mix I might pull it our though… and I didn’t quite go mono either.


#86

After all this time, you are finally there. :smiley:


#87

Now what is there to life? I feel like Ahab with no whale.


#88

@FredProgGH

I know this ain’t your bag, but I love this sound Paul Carrack has going (hate his fn hat, lol). I’ve been covering this tune for years, I think I am finally close to it. Maybe @Ade will have some insight on this since he got to hear it a lot. :smiley:

https://youtu.be/9S-zW5dgeWs?t=2m46s


#89

I would like any tweakers advice on using two Leslies. I imagine there are more than one hookup and speed configurations. I think someone said Goldie McJohn used that type of setup some too. Any info appreciated.

Dave


#90

@dave_dore

He did. Someone reported back in the day he was using 4 on stage.

If you have IK Leslie, there is a cabinet with two horns and two drums. I can get you a Steppenwolf sound, cause I gots it already. Forgot what vsts you have tho.

Correction…Blue3 RA200…not IK


#91

Are you kidding, I love Paul! Love Tempted and I liked Ace as well. I’ve played all kinds of stuff down through the years!


#92

I do a lot of his stuff. Very underrated. Great work with Mike & The Mechanics, although I think @Ade did all the keyboard work. Have you seen this:


#93

Well, the next holy grail heavy rock sound is Gimme Some Lovin, I guess. That’s a tough sound to nail.


#94

Actually, it’s not hard…people just don’t listen to it. I have it pretty close (cause I’ve been playing it for yrs), but not with all these newer vsts.


#95

Well again, it’s getting that overdrive at just the right creaminess. But with this setup it shouldn’t be far off the YIND sound.


#96

@dave_dore

Steve Winwood with his 2 Leslies

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From what I know, in the day, 2 Leslies were used to boost your volume over guitar amps. Of course, we all remember the crappy sound systems then. Adding another Leslie boosts the volume around 3 dB. If you separated them, there was a heaven like stereo sound. If you put them side by side, there is a big boost in the drum output, which would explain the extra distortion in the bass frequencies.


#97

It is quite close to that. Winwood always has a great Hammond sound.


#98

My trial 2 Leslies. Notice the pan settings for the Leslies. Blue3 is running DI out


#99

Kieth Emerson had up to 6 hot-rodded Leslies onstage at one point and I’m pretty sure they were all cranked. ELP was un-godly loud.

Are you getting any weird phase cancellation from that set-up? I’d try panning them apart from each other a little…


#100

No weird phase. They are panned hard left and right. If you set different fast and slow speeds, and different acceleration and deceleration on each, there is a nice swirly sound AND it really adds a nice distortion from the drums, which could explain that low distortion on YIND. Could Tony Kaye be using 2 Leslies like everyone else at that time? Hmmmm