All-in-one build

Wondering about the possibility of an all-in-one setup:

  • Source cheap controller keyboard with ample room inside housing
  • Hack a hole in it
  • Fit an NUC PC, sound card and Stream Deck

Has anyone done this? I love Cantabile but keep flirting with the idea of a new hardware rig, to reduce rehearsal and gig faff.

I mounted a Dell 2-in-1 11" on top of an EMU Xboard 49 that had a Behringer UCA202 and 1/4 jacks attached with Gorilla 2 sided tape onto it for sitting in open mics playing mostly Hammond parts. Ran on batteries for over 2 hours - All I needed was a 1/4 cable from the keyboard amp to plugin in and go.

You will need to ventilate the keyboard chassis with a small fan if you put the NUC inside.

I think the Stream deck could be easily mounted on top of the keyboard, perhaps using the spring loaded tablet holder so you can remove it easily while transporting the keyboard.

This thinking is all in the donā€™t build your own keyboard ā€œenclosureā€ box. Once you do that the project is way more complex. Christian from Germany designed a very nice custom keyboard.

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Here was the first iteration: NanoKontrol 2, UCA-202 and GSI VB3m running on a Pixel 4a

I drilled holes in the top of the Xboard 49 and glued threaded surfboard fin nuts underneath for the thumbscrews.

The on/off switches on the USB hub are to be able to reset. I needed that to switch between IKā€™s android piano and VB3m

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Here is the Dell 2-in-1 showing the UCA-202 and USB hub mounted on the back. I canā€™t find a photo of the 2-in-1 folded the opposite way and turned around and mounted so the screen faces the player.

The USB hub has one cable from the XBoard, one from the UCA-202, a logitech mouse/keyboard receiver and a faster USB WiFi dongle.

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Nice socksā€¦ :rofl:

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BJā€™s finest!

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At least sandals were not involved as wellā€¦ :rofl:

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The keyboard Christian built for me referenced by @dsteinschneider in that thread is actually NOT an ā€œall-in-oneā€, rather a customized MIDI/USB controller for my Cantabile setup. But itā€™s a real beauty, and itā€™s soooo much fun to work with it!

But Christian also built an actual integrated Cantabile all-in-one keyboard - unfortunately, he quit the custom-keyboard business before it became a viable product for the market. But the prototype looked very tasty indeed:

Cheers,

Torsten

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Hi Torsten,

I donā€™t remember seeing the keyboard Christian built for you. I love the arcade buttons. What did you decide on for the 9 controls above the sliders. The ones on the EMU XBoard would fit perfectly and I like their feel. Iā€™ve seen them for sale on eBay and at Syntaur.

Christianā€™s Cantabile keyboar is beautiful. Iā€™m pretty sure he built several functional ones for himself

How do we reinvigorate Christianā€™s project? The image looks fantastic, just what Iā€™m after. Although I love the arcade machine buttons on Torstenā€™sā€¦

Iā€™m going to shelve this idea, although Iā€™m still looking for cheap controllers with enough room inside themā€¦ Will keep you posted.

Thanks for the comments all

Itā€™s not exactly what you are asking for, but I built a Cantabile rack with 1) a Behringer digital mixer; 2) two ā€˜headlessā€™ Dell micro-PCs, each with a USB audio interface; and 3) rack-mounted voltage mains and I/O connections. I use it with a Studiologic SL73 and a Nord Stage as controllers. The Dell PCs are set up to run songs without any outside intervention other than the knobs, etc. on the two keyboards; however the rack I chose has a slant top for a laptop, which can control them by Windows RemotePC. The three PCs communicate with each other using RTPmidi and a dedicated 100baseT network. Iā€™ve been using it for a couple of years now, and itā€™s quite stable. The advantage that the rack method has is if I wish to change a PC or audio interface (I started with Gen7 PCs, and moved up to Gen12), I donā€™t have to worry as much about physical mounting issues, interconnects, etc. Itā€™s also easier to keep thermal problems at bay.

Thanks all. Iā€™m currently pursuing the idea of an installation within my Novation 61SL MK2. I like the action and it suits my needs.

There exists a recess 30cm wide x 12.5cm deep x 5cm high at the right of the board. It measures up favourably for a NUC and small audio interface e.g. Behringer UM2. I have identified suitable cutouts for cable access.

I donā€™t need frequent access to the GUI for my purposes, but would connect a screen and controls when engineering my virtual rack. I have no such need during gigs and only rarely at ensemble rehearsals, so the idea would be an auto-boot of my main Cantible song on plugging in the PSU (this is what I do currently with a Surface Pro 3 and works very well, albeit slow to boot).

Any caveats? Am thinking I would take the lid off the NUC. Do I need an additional fan, or will vents cut in the KB casing suffice?