Corky’s VST Organ Tips and Tweaks Page 🎹

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Hey Phil,

My money is on it being Chris Stainton because of his prominent role in things at the time it was recorded but I do not mind being corrected by the organ aficionados of our site here … :grin:

Dave

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Which live CD? There were several. It is my understanding Stainton wasn’t with Cocker after the Mad Dogs tour. Levine was with him like in the late 80’s.

My favorite live version is from the Berlin 1997 concert:

I believe it was Ken Stange on Hammond on that tour.

Cheers,

Torsten

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Dear @Torsten

Thanks for your midi organizer script. I have been trying to run it, but ReaJs does not see it
I have copied the 2 scripts in my usual VST path underneath Reaplugins
C:\Program Files\VSTplugins64bit\ReaPlugins\JS\Effects\midi

But when I open reajs next it only sees the standard scripts, also after restarting Cantabile and rebooting the laptop

Am I missimg out something?
If you can help me on this one it will be much appreciated

Thanks

Ad

Which live CD?

It was just called “Joe Cocker Live”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Cocker_Live. It’s a lovely sound - just a hint of distortion - the B5/Amplitube can approximate it.

Hi Ad,

ReaJS sometimes uses a different directory (depends on if Reaper is installed or not). It’s easy to find out what the actual script directory is:

  • add ReaJS to a song
  • load any of the standard scripts
  • hit the “Edit” button
  • look at the top line in the editor - it shows the full path that ReaJS is using for its scripts

Cheers,

Torsten

OK…gotcha! Now, to answer your question, I believe Jeff Levine is the organist. It sounds like his stylings, and his work has been mostly Hammond. Stainton leans more toward piano, even though they both can handle those 2 instruments very well.

Do I win the prize?

Corky

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@Corky Yeah - you are a veritable Hammcyclopedia!

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Thanks @Torsten . Now I got it right. Very useful script. Opens new doors!

PRESET MANIA 5 - WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM MY FRIENDS – Joe Cocker version.

This is based on several live versions from Joe Cocker. The Hammonds were quite similar in tone, but the intros varied. Once again, the swell pedal (expression pedal) drives the Leslie amp, so the more swell, the more distortion. Be sure to bind expression pedal to VST swell. While playing the softer passages, such as the intro, the pedal should be near 20%.

There is basically one setting, although during the verse, the 4’ drawbar is pushed in to 0. I provided the change in the Bb key preset. The B key preset will bring you back to the normal drawbar setting. The lower manual settings are also provided. Adjust accordingly to your preference.

The B5 swell pedal may need adjustment for a smoother transition. There is an adjustment for it within the plugin. All the clones sound good by themselves on this song, but, as usual, the IK Leslie always adds a special touch.

The way I play it is much the same as I’ve seen Cocker’s organists play it. The intro arpeggios are played on the lower manual with the right hand, while the left hand plays a chord-like progression on the upper. The reason for this is the arpeggios and the chord progressions are within the same octaves. Of course, with C3 you can have a duplicate octave on the same keyboard!

ALL PRESETS IN MANIA #5 WERE CREATED IN CANTABILE 3 VERSION 3637

THE PRESETS:

VB3 1.4
VB3_x64 1-With A Little Help - VB3 1.4- CR.CantabileProgram (15.5 KB)

VB3 1.4 with IK Leslie v5.1
VB3_x64 1-With A Little Help - VB3 1.4 IK Leslie- CR.cantabileprogram (15.5 KB)

TR5 Leslie 1-With A Little Help - TR5 VB3 1.4 - CR.CantabileProgram (11.3 KB)

BLUE 3 v2.2.2
Blue3 1-With A Little Help - Blue3 - CR.cantabileprogram (24.0 KB)

BLUE 3 v2.2.2 + IK LESLIE v5.1
Blue3 1-With A Little Help - Blue3 IK Leslie - CR.CantabileProgram (24.1 KB)

TR5 Leslie 1-With A Little Help - TR5 Blue3 - CR.cantabileprogram (11.1 KB)

VB3 II v2.1 with resident Leslie
VB3-II 1-With A Little Help - VB3 II - CR.cantabileprogram (33.0 KB)

VB3 II v2.1 with IK LESLIE v5.1
VB3-II 1-With A Little Help - VB3 II IK Leslie - CR.CantabileProgram (33.0 KB)

TR5 Leslie 1-With A Little Help - TR5 VB3 II - CR.cantabileprogram (10.9 KB)

B-5 v2.5
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZmSx6A81yeTaDnZ3cy2J5OWjysXMT0Mb/view?usp=sharing

B-5 v2.5 + IK LESLIE v5.1

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qBiVQDMXR-eolI5isuqu8Kpl8aOSgv6U/view?usp=sharing

TR5 Leslie 1-With A Little Help - IK Leslie B5 - CR.cantabileprogram (11.2 KB)

B-3X v1.1.1

Hammond B-3X 1-With A Little Help - CR.CantabileProgram (33.8 KB)

Many Thanks to Brad for fixing the preset snapshot lock in 3637.
Kudos to Dave Dore’ for helping me through the process.

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Thanks Corky. This is an all-time favorite of mine!

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Here is my next achievement. 40 seconds in is where I start having difficulties, but I think with a positive attitude, anything is possible.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

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There is one other available appendage but I guess it’s a family forum…

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Oh for heck’s sake. The Nose. Geeze, you people.

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Awesome! Can’t wait to try it - it’s one of my favourites too

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PRESET MANIA #6 – HOLD YOUR HEAD UP – ARGENT

Rod Argent, is a noted song writer, and another of the great 1960’s Hammond geniuses who influenced so many later players. His solos with The Zombies and Argent are considered by many of his peers as the best ever.

On “Hold Your Head Up”, he usually plays song and solos with the same drawbar settings. During the solo, he sets percussion to the “on” position while not playing chords. I was fortunate to hack his drawbars from his XK-3, and I found them somewhat strange, but this is his sound on this song. The problem is that it is hard to get enough volume without maxing everything out. I noticed he relied on the volume and distortion knobs on his XK-3 quite a lot. With most of the clones, I had to rely on Leslie settings for a boost. I did experiment by increasing each drawbar out by 2 numbers, but the tone began to disappear.

VB3 II adapted very well to this song, as did B5. With IK added, it was beautiful. Blue3 did not do as well, and VB3 1.4 was the worst. Of course, B3-X dialed right in.

Swell pedal sits about 65%. Boost to full on solos.

I used Cantabile 3 version 3637 when creating these presets.

THE PRESETS:

VB3 1.4
VB3_x64 1-Hold Your Head Up-VB3 1.4-CR.CantabileProgram (15.5 KB)

VB3 1.4 with IK Leslie v5.1
VB3_x64 1-Hold Your Head Up-VB3 1.4 IK Leslie-CR.cantabileprogram (15.5 KB)

TR5 Leslie 1-Hold Your Head Up-TR5 VB3 1.4-CR.CantabileProgram (11.0 KB)

BLUE 3 v2.2.2
Blue3 1-Hold Your Head Up-Blue3-C3.CantabileProgram (24.0 KB)

BLUE 3 v2.2.2 + IK LESLIE v5.1
Blue3 1-Hold Your Head Up-Blue3 IK Leslie-C3.cantabileprogram (24.1 KB)

TR5 Leslie 1-Hold Your Head Up-TR5 Blue3-CR.cantabileprogram (11.3 KB)

VB3 II v2.1 with resident Leslie
VB3-II 1-Hold Your Head Up-VB3II-CR.CantabileProgram (32.9 KB)

VB3 II v2.1 with IK LESLIE v5.1
VB3-II 1-Hold Your Head Up-VB3II IK Leslie-CR.cantabileprogram (32.9 KB)

TR5 Leslie 1-Hold Your Head Up-TR5 VB3II-CR.cantabileprogram (11.3 KB)

B-5 v2.5
https://drive.google.com/file/d/10gdr9HJI5pVhzE5mcJfxBORAH-h--CZS/view?usp=sharing

B-5 v2.5 + IK LESLIE v5.1
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e58Hg7WiUj_SF-71xkSdEsxQ4L95lisL/view?usp=sharing

TR5 Leslie 1-Hold Your Head Up - IK Leslie B5 - CR.cantabileprogram (11.2 KB)

B-3X v1.1.1

Hammond B-3X 1-Hold Your Head Up - CR.CantabileProgram (33.4 KB)

Enjoy!!

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Rod Argent!! one of my favourite keyboard players!

Ramon

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Just thought this deserved to be thrown out there

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I’ve been watching Cory for quite some time now. Great keyboardist.

Got some great pipes as well. I want to hire those two girls to follow me around and just background vocal everything I say, lol

This is one that really displays this man’s talents

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